joining us to explain is the host of "stossel," john stossel. who bellies up to the curvy couch today. john, the federal government now says if you're an intern, we all interned someplace back in the day. none of us got paid. now they have to get paid. >> or it's exploitation. there is this rule that one that's most interesting is it's okay to have an unpaid intern, if they're not helpful for impede your work. i asked -- i had a couple interns like that. this is why we shouldn't have a labor department. it's a private contract. no one is forced to become an intern. if you feel exploited, you can quit. but it's a great thing. i at my first tv job wanted more research help. the company said, we're not going to pay for it. i asked colleges they need students and some might want to do that. they were eager. and the students who worked for me said, oh, my goodness, i learned more who and i didn't have to pay tuition than in college. win-win. >> alisyn: it's a launch pad for your career. to be an intern and then you make contacts. >> many of my intern